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Shingeki no Kyojin
Shingeki no Kyojin
Shingeki no Kyojin
Shingeki no Kyojin review
Shingeki no Kyojin
Apr 16, 2021
Shingeki no Kyojin review
The best manga that I have ever read. If you're looking for something with deep, intricate lore, then this is it. You have found the manga. I'll keep this review spoiler-free as to not ruin the many surprises you'll encounter throughout the series. TL;DR at the end, and the review as easy to follow as I can.

The Story (10/10)

The story of Attack on Titan takes place in a time where large humanoid creatures called "Titans", which resemble humans, but are 5, 10, and 15 metres tall, the remaining population of humans was forced inside 3 50-metre-tall walls: Wall Maria, Wall Rose and Wall Shina being the most inner wall. Their just want to eat humans,
having no intelligence whatsoever.
Our main protagonist is Eren Jeager, alongside Mikasa and Armin, quickly learn of the terror of the titans after a 60 metre tall titan appears and smashes the main gate protecting humanity from titans. From that day onwards, Eren swears he will do anything and everything to stop the titans, and to go beyond the walls.

The story may sound boring and basic, but as the plot progresses, there are many, many interesting things happening. Isayama creates different situations for his characters, and sees how they interact with eachother. The plot is very story and lore rich, with many secrets hidden, and foreshadowings, which are more appreciated when you read the manga after you have finished it entirely.

The Art (10/10)

The art at first may seem a bit more cartoonish, more "water-colour-y" if you get me. But as the series progresses and the themes of it change, so does the art style, and also considering this manga was started in 2009 and will end in less than a month on 9th of April, 2021, Isayama's art style has clearly evolved from something good at best, to amazing and may I say a masterpiece level, since this is supposed to reflect my point of view.

The Characters (10/10)

The characters start a bit basic, we are introduced to them, their personalities and their views and ideas, and as the show progresses, they evolve with the plot, changing sometimes for the best and sometimes for the worst. Attack on Titan is the only manga where I truly loved and still love the characters. I like more characters in Attack on Titan than I do in any 2 other random series combined. They are well-thought out and fleshed to feel like real humans, with flaws, moments of humour and horror, depression and happiness.

Enjoyment (10/10)

As you could have probably guessed, this series truly made me feel bad for characters, wonder what is going to happen and always want to read "just one more chapter" before going to bed. It's one of the most brilliant surprises I have had in my life. I went into this expecting just killing titans and cool ODM scenes, and whilst there is plenty of that, this manga is so much more that it is hard to explain without spoiling you. This plot is amazing. I want you to feel the same way I felt when I read the second to last chapter, that.. feeling that the series' end is right around the corner and wondering what is going to happen... because that feeling is the best feeling. And I feel like these emotions are present pretty much everywhere. You'll enjoy this series, either you're into big, story-rich plots or just fun-action scenes with interesting characters, it has everything.

TL;DR
Overall, Attack on Titan is a great series, with wayyy more to with than you would expect, and a story and lore so rich you would want to read it again for the first time just to feel those emotions again. With art that gets progressively better from "good enough" to "masterpiece" and interesting characters, and an enjoyment beyond anything out there. This truly does feel like that 1 in a billion manga series where everything just clicks and so well thought out. Well, of course it would be, considering Isayama worked on the whole plot 6 months before even drawing anything for the manga (yes, it's that deep and rich).

Truly a masterpiece and my best read ever. 10/10


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Vagabond
Vagabond
Vagabond
Vagabond review
Vagabond
Apr 16, 2021
Vagabond review
“There is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter." -Miyamoto, Musashi

When I first started reading this manga is was way back in 2015 or 2016. I didn't expect much of it except "cool samurai fight scenes" as I would've described it then. However, upon reading it and rereading it countless times already, I've come to accept this manga for what it is: an unfinished masterpiece.

If it were only completed this would make the second manga/anime I have ever ranked a solid 10. It follows the real life story of the wondering vagrant swordsman MIyamoto Musashi in his journey to become the strongest swordsman who has ever lived. It doesn't start off slow and pick start picking up later on. It is consistent in its story telling and masterful in its conveying of the plot.

Personally I think many of its negative reviews are due to the viewer being unable to relate to the characters leaving them with a sense of lack of depth from the overall story. I don't want to say they are wrong. But perhaps they are looking at it the least productive way. Vagabond is a biography. The characters were different people not fictional relatable protagonists. Much of the manga might be seen as unnecessary drawn out action, but that is simply what Musashi's life boiled down to during his earlier years before he retired. It's like trying to relate to Elon Musk's autobiography when you really can't. You're supposed to take some ideas from it and try to better yourself as a person using them.

Sun Tzu's art of war is no relatable because it's about warfare. That is simply not true at all, people still use it predominantly in business tactics. If I might say: most negative reviews of this manga are/might be unjustified.


You are not supposed to relate to the characters or Musashi at all.
I believe that is the true intention of the author.


Story: 40% / 43%
Vagabond is the epic story of wondering swordsman Musashi Miyamoto later in life titled "The Sword Saint". The manga closely follows his early years in life from when he leaves to war and returns with a different name. He starts to steadily build up his legend but at times seems unsure of himself striking deep philosophical thought, not from the author, but from the person himself. I love how the story follows his life as accurately as possible while still maintaining a sense of, well, epicness. The only reason it doesn't have full points is because of the fact that the manga remains unfinished to this date.

Characters: 33% / 33%

Miyamoto Musashi or Musashi Miyamoto. He is practically the only character as far as it goes because it is basically a biography of him. (Other characters like Sasaki Kojiro were not taken into consideration whilst writing the rating for this section). The Sword Saint. It is not an exaggeration, that is his actual title. This is a man that actually lived in Japan and the tales of his journey are well recorded so I can say firmly (after actually doing a lot of research) that the manga stays true to the nature and reality of the character. Musashi was and is the greatest swordsman to have ever lived, but he wasn't born that way. His life was full of hardship, struggle, and challenge. Everything from when he was thirteen and on was battle. But that was not all there was to Musashi. He had a strong sense of philosophy and was extremely intelligent. He theorized about things such as psychology that weren't even invented in his era. A character this brilliantly and accurately represented on manga is something you won't find anywhere else. Truly masterful work done to recreate his person.

Art: 21% / 23%
This manga has perhaps some of the best illustrations I have ever had the privilege of setting eyes upon. At least in book the art this manga handles is second only to Berserk. The fight scenes are spectacles unfolding right before your eyes and everything in between is equally as exquisite. The quality does not waver during the whole length of the manga and if anything it gets even better as it progresses. The reason it does not have full points, though, is just that. The art does get better, but in turn that means that the earlier chapters could've been better as well. This may come off as overly critical or analytical, but it is the undeniable truth. In spite of this, the art still gets one of the best ratings I've given to art in manga.

Overall: 94% / 100% or 9.4/10
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Death Note
Death Note
Death Note
Death Note review
Death Note
Apr 15, 2021
Death Note review
I'm glad I waited until this series was finished before I started. Considering I finished all 108 chapters in less than twenty-four hours, I'm not sure how I would have survived if I'd started earlier.

STORY - Morals and ethics are serious business, and it isn't often that they're addressed so directly in a series. The lines that people draw vary greatly from individual to individual, and the last thing any writer wants is to severely offend any portion of its potential readership. I found it incredibly impressive then, that Death Note could so effectively address such a controversial issue -- capital punishment -- without alienating anyone in the audience. Wrapped up and packaged with some rather generic supernatural elements, Death Note may not seem like anything particularly special at first glance, but the eerie realism in the rest of the world begs the question, "What would you have done?" And I find that connection one of this story's greatest strengths.

Despite the flexibility of his manga though, Ohba's personal morals and overall message is clear. All the same, if his primary intention was for readers to think and contemplate the issue, then he certainly succeeds, regardless of whether individuals agree with his views or not. He doesn't offend them with his opinions, and that's good enough. Death Note's story progresses rapidly and quickly spirals into a very involved suspense; it's a tension-filled chess game that the protagonist and antagonist carefully play (which character is the protagonist depends entirely on your point of view). Yes, there are many more words than actions, and yes, it can be frustrating, and even comical at times, how long the chains of "I knew that you knew that I knew that you knew" become. But these words and lengthy passages of expository serve their purpose and keep you on the edge of your seat, and it's obvious from the beginning that this ain't no shounen title.

Sadly, I've found that a lot of readers stopped halfway through the series, citing that the tension ramped off severely after the major spoiler. While I understand their position, I would disagree and honestly applaud Ohba for breaking through everyone's expectations with said spoiler. If anything, the uncertainty that's left behind and the vague impression that there's already a winner in the battle for justice makes the latter half of the series that much more interesting, even if the absence of certain things may be a blow. The stakes are higher. It's the last stretch of the race. Up until the very end, Ohba is able to keep the ultimate victor a secret. Those last forty seconds waiting for the last few names written into the Death Note to die? Killer. You'll breeze through the pages, but your heart will still be pounding afterwards. And it's all worth it in the end.

CHARACTERS - Death Note had a fantastic cast of characters, and you really find yourself emotionally evolved. You feel for them. You love them. You hate them. You hate them. I find it to be a sign of incredible character writing and development when you can come to hate a characters as much as I hated Light Yagami. Mediocre characters just don't invite that much attention. So I didn't hate Light because he was a bad character; I hated him because of his personality, his morals, his reasons and logic, and the way he used his intellect. It didn't start off that way though. Light progresses a lot during the course of the series; his arrogance heightens, and his character warps. In a way, it was incredibly realistic and fascinating to watch as his personality and growing neuroticism turned him into a sociopath (not to mention frustrating, when certain things about him are revealed). It was also kind of scary. Seriously though, there's no denying that Light is a well thought-out character, and as much as I love to hate him, I can't help but think he's the most well-written character in the series.

L, as the antagonist/protagonist, is just about everything that Light is not, but that isn't as clear-cut as it may seem. As noted by several of the series' other characters, L's tactics can be rather questionable, and so even though his ultimate goal is to defeat Kira/Light, even his morals are not spotless. This adds another degree of realism to the story and provides for a very interesting foil. Additionally, L's personality quirks are some of the most interesting and endearing ones I've ever seen, though this may serve to cancel out the previous realism points for some people. As much of his past remains mysterious for the duration of the series, L's personality does not seem to progress or change as much as Light's. Still, the way he adapts and reacts to each of Light's changes definitely keeps things interesting.

The rest of the cast seems to be scattered across the moral spectrum, providing readers with many choices as to who to sympathize with or to relate to. Detective Soichiro Yagami is likely the most moralistic of the lot, though not unrealistically so. His relationship with his son is fun to follow throughout the series, considering their vast differences. Most of the other detectives are also clustered on the "ideal" end of the spectrum, though there's enough variation and personality quirk that they manage to establish meaningfully different personas (ie, they're all definitely different characters, even though their roles are fairly interchangeable). Misa's morals are more difficult to assess as they seem incredibly flexible; rather than morals, her character is defined by her utter infatuation with Light. I find this interesting mainly because it started off as an infatuation with Kira, but once she learned of Kira's identity, her affections were transferred to Light as Light rather than Light as Kira. Because of her lack of a moral standing and the one-dimensional nature of her "love" though, it's incredibly easy to lose interest in Misa, despite her importance as a tool in the grand scheme of things (this is also true for Takada and to some extent, Mikami). The lack of development in her "love" is also what made Rem not-as-interesting to me.

Now, Mello and Near. I kind of feel like Ohba tried too hard to mirror the quirkiness of L's character, what with Mello's apparent obsession with chocolate and Near's with toys. Still, both of them grew on me, and I was satisfied enough with the way they played their parts. And finally, there's Ryuk. What's there to say? As probably the only character with no real ultimate goal, he serves as kind of an objective bystander throughout the course of the series. He doesn't care one way or another as long as things are "interesting." Because of his attachment to the Note given to Light, he does end up helping Kira now and again, but I don't think that hurts his objectivity all that much in the end. In a series rife with moral and ethics, it was ironic to have the character that started it all so removed from all the conflict.

There were no useless characters in Death Note. All of them contributed in one way or another to the series as a whole, either by offering a variation in moral standing or by acting as a tool for another character to use. Sure, there were a few generic archetypes (the butler, the love-stricken slave, the vengeful widow), but I suppose there just wasn't enough depth to go around when the two main characters take up so much of the spotlight. God, I ramble a lot.

ART - Obata draws beautiful stuff, no question about that. From his wonderfully detailed backgrounds to the wide variety of character expressions (including Light's five hundred different creepy smirks), this artist's incredible prowess is evident throughout all twelve volumes of the series. Angles and perspective are expertly rendered and the meticulous attention he pays to each character definitely makes up for the fact that there are a lot of talking heads in Death Note. The human world is wonderfully realistic while the shinigami world offers everything you might expect from the supernatural. Character designs vary from being very simple -- Light and L -- to being very complex -- Misa and the shinigamis -- but all are well done. It's an incredible treat to go through this manga as the artwork is definitely up to par with the sophistication of the story.

OTHER - I've yet had a chance to read Viz's translation of this, so I can't really say much about its English adaptation unfortunately. :< I've heard pretty decent things about it though. Other than that, I really wish I could review the first two live action movies on this site because they were incredibly impressive and are two of the few book-to-film adaptations that satisfied my rampant purist ways, despite significant changes.

OVERALL - Death Note has probably impressed me more than any other manga I've read (which isn't any incredible number, but still). Its degree of sophistication in all categories, story, characters, and artwork, is incredible. The story is significant; the characters are engaging; the artwork is beautiful. It's like hitting the jackpot, and I really feel like this is one of those titles that almost anyone can enjoy; better yet, I feel like this is one of those titles that can act as a gateway for the not-yet-a-manga-fan, encouraging them to explore the media further. Yeah, there's a lot of hype around Death Note, and they're definitely milking it for what it's worth (an anime, three live action movies, video games, and several spin-offs, all in the course of what, two or three years?), but for once, I think this series deserves every bit of attention it gets. Don't take the numbers on this review too lightly. I don't give 10's that often.
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Corpse Party: Musume
Bakumatsu Roman Ibun
BABY LIPS
Botsuraku Yotei nano de, Kaji Shokunin wo Mezasu
Botsuraku Yotei nano de, Kaji Shokunin wo Mezasu
Botsuraku Yotei nano de, Kaji Shokunin wo Mezasu
Botsuraku Yotei nano de, Kaji Shokunin wo Mezasu review
Botsuraku Yotei nano de, Kaji Shokunin wo Mezasu
Apr 11, 2021
Botsuraku Yotei nano de, Kaji Shokunin wo Mezasu review
As there are only 7 chapters out as of now, this is just partial review/placeholder. First of all, I absolutely adore the Novel which I've read up to Vol 4 Chp 3, however immediately within the first manga chapter I've recognized that they've skipped an alarming amount of important details that are in my opinion completely necessary for building interest in the series. There is way too much that's been skipped over and makes transitions not flow well. For now I'm just viewing this as something to check out alongside the novel as the art matches the art from the novel. Just from what's already out, I can assume that the manga will only continue to rush through this series and barely cover enough to outline the plot, while leaving some cute fluffy moments in, which will ultimately not make as big of an impact on the readers without having been given the time to better understand or adjust to the world that's been built or give justice to just how big an impact Kururi has had on the world and its characters. In the novel Kururi is even more of a beast with almost every subject he encounters and Eliza is the cutest most fluffy best tsundere girl, I ship them so hard. I can't say I'd recommend the manga on it's own and really am only giving good rating for hope that in the future the manga will give justice to the novel which in terms of smart characters/world building, is one of my favorites, alongside I Appear to have been Reincarnated as a Love Interest in an Otome Game, Akuyaku Reijo Ni Koi Wo Shite, and Release that Witch. Ultimately I'd give this manga a barely passing 6, and really wish that they had included much more from the novel, which I'd give a 9.
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Tayutama: Kiss on my Deity
Tayutama: Kiss on my Deity
Tayutama: Kiss on my Deity
Tayutama: Kiss on my Deity review
Tayutama: Kiss on my Deity
Apr 10, 2021
Tayutama: Kiss on my Deity review
Story [6.25/10]
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Right off the bat, just by reading and "looking" at the first few color intro pages, you get the cliche ecchi guy+girl kind of feeling. Not long after (literally a few panels), we get introduced to the supernatural aspects of the story. Advance a few more panels and we get to the comedic and romance elements. Although not listed on MAL specifically, the gender-bender genre gets thrown in as well. See the pattern so far? Everything is pretty jammed pack right from the get-go. While the plot was pretty simple the pacing was horrid. I think this manga would have benefited from more chapters; maybe not 20-30 like other works but definitely more than 6.


Art [6.5/10]
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~Okay for the most part. Very simple character designs but unique enough to tell apart each and every character. Background work was pretty much nonexistent and our characters often interact in front of flat, glowing, airy backgrounds a la shoujo manga. One "winning point", if you can call it that, is at least the female cast was for the most part appealing enough. The focus is pretty much on these females so kudos to the mangaka for handling that department properly.


Characters [5.75/10]
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Disappointing. As mentioned in my story assessment, the characters in the story would have benefited from more chapters. This in turn would allow for more backstories, more development, more growth and more interactions. While it was obvious telling apart the two mains and the side characters, it's quite easy to consider them all to be mains. Also, the romance/relationships between our characters was just one big snafu. One female shown with possible romantic interest was abandoned, another female (who I THINK was the osananajimi) hinted at romantic feelings but was wrapped up and abandoned within mere minutes of each other. A real mess in this department honestly.


Enjoyment/Overall [6/10]
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After I finished up the manga, I went on MAL for my usual business. Which was then that I noticed there was an anime adaptation! Ah, I possible screwed up. Fun fact: I never read a manga without watching the anime adaptation first just to see how far off the adaptation was. However, looking at the mere 6 chapters of clusterfunk that is the manga source and seeing the higher overall score with a proper 1-cour duration, I can't help but wonder if the anime was tons better than the manga. Maybe once I get around to watching the anime, I will come back to edit my overall assessment but as of right now, there's really no reason to read this unless you need a quick read while commuting or something.
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Dead Flowers
Maou Gakuen no Hangyakusha: Jinrui Hatsu no Maou Kouhou, Kenzoku Shoujo to Ouza wo Mezashite Nariagaru
Maou Gakuen no Hangyakusha: Jinrui Hatsu no Maou Kouhou, Kenzoku Shoujo to Ouza wo Mezashite Nariagaru
Maou Gakuen no Hangyakusha: Jinrui Hatsu no Maou Kouhou, Kenzoku Shoujo to Ouza wo Mezashite Nariagaru
Maou Gakuen no Hangyakusha: Jinrui Hatsu no Maou Kouhou, Kenzoku Shoujo to Ouza wo Mezashite Nariagaru review
Maou Gakuen no Hangyakusha: Jinrui Hatsu no Maou Kouhou, Kenzoku Shoujo to Ouza wo Mezashite Nariagaru
Apr 08, 2021
Maou Gakuen no Hangyakusha: Jinrui Hatsu no Maou Kouhou, Kenzoku Shoujo to Ouza wo Mezashite Nariagaru review
Chapter 10 is still in Light Novel Volume 1. You are around 60% of the LN volume 1.

I will try to keep this review spoiler-free, but I can't promise you anything, so tread carefully.

The review will divide into two parts:

Quick review = I will give you a rough explanation of what this series is about (genre, plot, location, similarity to other books, etc.). Quick review is for people who decide if they will watch anime or read the entire manga on a short amount of episodes/chapters.

Standard review = I don't have to explain that.
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Without further ado, let's go for the "quick review":

1, MG is an ecchi genre. 1st LN volume ( 14-18 chapters, precise number in future edits) is introductory and is "tame" in erotic aspects. However, in the first ten chapters of the manga, you will get to see some butt and boobs groping. Later Light Novel Volumes are more erotic and daring.

2, Maou Gakuen no Hangyakusha is as you may already guess about devils (word "Maou"). The main protagonist Morioka Yuuto is the devil king candidate of Lovers Arcana. He's the first human candidate and is preparing for the upcoming "devil king war" (the winner gets the throne, everyone else dies on the battlefield).

3, MG like a lot of ecchi genres has a school setting. The primary location of Maou Gakuen is Ginsei Academy. Ginsei Academy is exclusive to devils. LN volumes 1-3 are primary Ginsei Academy. Volume 4 is mostly primary elsewhere.

4, Bit on Arcana and devil king candidates: Every Arcana has its unique signature magic. Every Arcana has a "nemesis" Arcana ( Random example: Arcana of Tower performs badly against Arcana of Lovers). Ginsei Academy provides every devil king candidate with a palace.

5, The story, as I already mentioned is about Morioka Yuuto. In the beginning, he is a pretty standard ecchi character regarding erotic stuff, braveness, but he grows up. You might not see it in the 1st few chapters, but he will grow.

6, If you are a fan of Highschool DxD ( I've read all the 25 volumes, and I am up to date with Shin), I can recommend you to try Maou Gakuen. You will find similarities between DxD and MG, but both works have their own unique identity.

7, MG is from Kuji Masamune (author of Masou Gakuen HxH), so if you liked his past works, you will likely enjoy going into Maou Gakuen.

Quick review end. It might be longer than the Standard review. However, The Standard review is going to expand with new chapters. "Quick review" will remain the same.
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Standard review (last updated 14.02.2021):

I finished chapter 10. I don't like the inconsistency of MG chapter length as a whole right now. some chapters have twenty pages, some only eight pages like previous chapter 9. I feel the fact some chapters are way too short is hurting Hangyakusha in the eyes of new readers.

Art: I think it's a pretty good art style. I think Gelatin did good character designs. In the latest chapters, the attention to detail of the female body has been good ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).

Story: As I was saying earlier, Morioka Yuuto is the devil king candidate of Lovers Arcana. He's the 1st ever human candidate to compete for the devil king throne. Yuuto enrolls into Ginsei Academy. Devil king candidates are studying and preparing for war, are training and building their peerages in Ginsei Academy. They can kill each other even before the "Devil King War" starts. 1st day in Ginsei Academy, Yuuto meets Lizel Himekami. She helps Yuuto during his conflict with a devil student, later joining Yuuto's peerage as his queen along with Yuugaoze Miyabi and Koiwai Reina with the ambition to make Yuuto the 1st ever human devil king.

I like the story overall, 1st volume has a lot of introductory information, but the plot picks up the pace. Maou Gakuen has good potential to be a good series. I rate MG high in the ecchi genre. Hopefully, future volumes will get better and better.

Characters:
Maou Gakuen no Hangyakusha has four protagonists. I found MG protagonists and characters to be entertaining in general. In my Light Novel reading, I found one or two exceptions, but still, I like most of the characters.

Yuuto might seem overpowered in 1st few chapters. From Light Novel experience, I can say he's not the overpowered "I calculated everything, I was planning this all along" type of MC (not even close to OPness of Kirito, Shiba Tatsuya, Ousawa Akatsuki). He will find tough opponents.

When it comes down to character development, MG does a pretty good job. I will expand this section in the future, but for now, I want to write a review of what you can already read in manga.

Villains:
When it comes to villains, I always have high expectations, so how does MG fare?

Volume 1: Well, our 1st villain is the devil king candidate of "World" Linel Aspite. As a 1st villain, he is okay, he wasn't groundbreaking, but he did his job. I will talk about it more once Yuuto versus Aspite concludes. Right now, Yuuto is about to have a confrontation with his "Ace".

Rating:
7/10. I can't give a higher rating to 10 chapters manga. Rating will go to 8/10 once Yuuto versus Aspite conclusion happens, signaling the end of LN Volume 1. The only reason I would not change the score would be inconsistency in Hangyakusha chapter length. It has potential. I hope manga will keep on releasing new chapters. So I can update the review and make it feel less bland and empty.


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